Wednesday, November 10, 2010

Zahid, is it patriotism or racism?

Neders: Zahid Hamidi, how did you become the defence minister? You haven't a clue about the reality on the ground. I am an old boy of the Federal Military College (now Royal Military College) and many of my non-Malay contemporaries joined the armed forces.

Sure, a number worked their way up to become colonels and even a sprinkling became generals (you stood a better chance to be one if you were prepared to sacrifice your prepuce). This was because they were of a calibre that was hard to ignore.

However, a larger number got stuck at the 'major' level and were overtaken by Malay officers many years their junior. Also, the intake into the RMC progressively became so lopsided that the 'nons' became discouraged and later disinterested. Why would I want my sons to join the armed forces when their chances of fair promotions stand as much as that of a snowball in hell?

I dare tell you in the face never to question our patriotism. You are the one who created the situation and now blame the 'nons' for the problem.

Ranjit Singh: Patriotism or racism? Do you want me to lay the facts out about the selective recruitment process under Dr Mahathir Mohamad where mostly Malays were hired in all public sector under the New Economic Plan (NEP)?

Seriously, imagine such a statement from a minister. What more can I say? This is the quality of people we have in Umno. Doesn't that statement speak for itself?

AJ: I can speak of my experience in RMAF (Royal Malaysian Air Force). I joined in the early years of Mahathir's reign. The higher allowance went to the aircraft mechanics as they came in with higher school grades and did better in the aptitude tests. Malay to non-Malay ratio was almost 60-40. No one had to worry about promotions as it was a very fair process.

As the years past, the non-technical support staff allowance was adjusted to that of the technical staff's. Now there was no need to be smarter or start off with a higher aptitude. Moral and pride began to slip. Soon Malays, who were juniors and those who were left behind because they did not excel in their work, were promoted.

When questioned, those who did the appraisals showed us that promotions were race and not merit-based. It was a government directive and beyond their control. Non-Malays subsequently left the force in droves.

Rick Teo: Zahid, which school did you go to? Chinese and Indians don't want join the army because your kind will always bully the non-Malays in the army. Promotions do not go according to merit but kulit-fication.
Anonymous: Chinese and Indians are very practical. Why would they join the army when they will be marginalised and denied promotions? By the way, Chinese and Indians are patriotic in a different way, they contribute to nation building by paying the most taxes. Every race has different way of contributing to the nation.


Chinese and Indians 'not patriotic enough'

Chinese and Indians 'not patriotic enough'
S Pathmawathy
Nov 9, 10
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Defence Minister Zahid Hamidi reasoned that the low number of Chinese and Indian recruits in the military could be due to “lack of patriotism”.

military tentera askar soldier malaysia 260307 wataniahZahid told the Dewan Rakyat this during Question time today when replying Mohd Jidin Shafee (BN-Setiu).

Mohd Jidin asked for the number of army recruits in the last two years and the breakdown of the numbers by ethnicity.

He also asked for the reasons behind the small number of a certain race in the Malaysian Armed Forces (MAF).

According to Zahid, in the last two years 9,054 officers and those of other ranks were taken into the MAF compared to 14,749 officers and personnel of other ranks who were hired from 2006 to 2008.

From 2008 to 2009, 8,151 or 90 percent of those recruited were Malays, 26 or 0.29 percent were Chinese and 82 or 0.91 percent were Indians, while 795 or 8.8 percent were 'others' including Sabah and Sarawak bumiputeras.

“The ministry finds that the participation of non-Malays especially among the Chinese and Indians is still below par,” Zahid said.

Besides the lack of “patriotic spirit”, Zahid also pointed out other reasons that could have resulted in the poor participation of other races in the MAF.

“Maybe it is the fear of tough military discipline, low pay compared to private jobs or no encouragement from families,” he said.

It could also be the result of “lack of backing from their ethnic communities” or “the negative aspersions cast on the MAF”.

Minister a coward, says Kulasegaran

Nevertheless Zahid said the government has never set a quota for admission into the MAF and that entrance is based on qualifications and interest, and must be done voluntarily.

NONESeeing red over Zahid's comment, M Kulasegaran (DAP-Ipoh Barat) raised an objection under Standing Order 36(10)(c).

Kulasegaran (left) demanded that the minister apologise for the statement that non-Malays lack patriotism.

As Zahid had already left the House by then, Kulasegaran branded him a “coward”, given that the minister had been asked to remain in the House.

Speaker Pandikar Amin Mulia did not order Zahid to withdraw his remarks but instead reprimanded Kulasegaran for his use of the unparliamentary word “coward”.


seals: when the government treat the "others" not equal ...more like a 3rd class citizen, for sure they will find ways to find a proper life and show their
patriotic spirit in other ways.

Blocking promotions and letting way low juniors to be their boss and you can count the number of Lt. colonel and above ... how many non-malay Generals we have? How about the police ? The last top rank that I saw was
Selangor Chief Police Officer P. Alegendra. You mean to say the others are not capable?

So, what the government has done so far to attract the "not motivated" to be motivated to join the forces? Lol.... question that we might not get any answers ....

If intake of the "others" has reduced then blame the BN government for the failed policies and actions that demotivated the non-malays, still the non-malays equally patriotic enough in their own way.

The existence of opposition parties itself is another evidence of "patriotic enough" to safe Malaysia and to check and balance the failing BN. If not for the actions of the
oppositions party no country (not only Malaysia) will be a right place to live. But only the ruling party gets tittles and awards ... funny ah?

I am not surprised to see this from the UMNO Speaker:

Speaker Pandikar Amin Mulia did not order Zahid to withdraw his remarks but instead reprimanded Kulasegaran for his use of the unparliamentary word “coward”.

as it is common to see the reporters being arrested and media is harassed and the one who made the statement is having a good life outside :)

Or is this a first step for the BN government to start to change the History to make sure Malaysia 10 years from now will never know the contribution on Indians and Chinese towards the merdeka (independence) towards what Malaysia is today?

Tuesday, November 09, 2010

Racist BTN official suspended, warned

Racist BTN official suspended, warned
S Pathmawathy
Nov 8, 10
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The government has punished National Civics Bureau (BTN) official Hamim Husin over his racist remarks, the Dewan Rakyat was told today.

NONEMinister in the Prime Minister's Department Mohd Nazri Abdul Aziz said the BTN deputy director was suspended on Oct 6 and issued a warning letter.

However, Nazri did not elaborate on the duration of the suspension.

He was responding to a question from Wee Jeck Seng (BN-Tanjong Piai) to state the number of civil servants who have faced disciplinary action for being racist while on duty.

At a closed-door briefing, Hamim (right) had reportedly referred to the Chinese as si sepet (slant-eyed) and to Indians as si kaki botol (alcoholics) when speaking of Umno's need to co-opt other races for electoral purposes.

The cabinet then ordered a probe over the incident, which took place during a Puteri Umno function in September.

The minister also said the government has acted on two school principals - in Kulaijaya, Johor and Bukit Selambau, Kedah - for similar offences.

Siti Aishah Mansor, principal of SMK Tunku Abdul Rahman Putra in Johor and Ungku Aznan Ungku Ismail, principal of SMK Bukit Selambau, Sungai Petani, in Kedah - were suspended and reassigned to desk duty at the education department in their respective states.

Mohd Nazri said the three cases were the first such offences reported to the government.

“Nevertheless the government is committed and assures that action will be taken against the officers involved under the Public Officers (Conduct and Discipline) Regulations 1993,” he said.

He explained that the investigation initiated against the school principals and the punishment was in accordance with regulations.

Limits to gov't action

Wee, in a supplementary question, stated that the government's move to punish the civil servants was not “effective enough” and has given the perception that the officers can behave “as they like” despite causing distress.

He asked if the government will take more stringent to prevent such incidents from recurring.

NONEHowever, Mohd Nazri (left) said that, even if the government wants to mete out much stricter punishments, it cannot.

“We can only do according to what is stated in the code of conduct. This doesn't mean the government doesn't want to take stricter action but we are limited by the regulations,” he said.

He explained that, although the police can probe the matter under the Sedition Act if police reports are made, it is also crucial to observe the behaviour of officers after the government has taken action.

“These principals had no intention to incite (hatred), they said it accidentally. In order to (initiate a) probe under Section 504 of the Penal Code or Sedition Act, there must be intention to incite,” said Mohd Nazri.

“We can study from their behaviour after making the statement - the teacher in Johor apologised four times to her non-Muslim colleagues and students in the assembly. The principal in Kedah also apologised - it clearly shows that it wasn't said on purpose but accidentally."


seals: Just a warning and "suspension" and maybe a promotion. I want to see if the same applied for all...... sure they will be arrested for sedition.... even if you report it. Like the reporter that was arrested under ISA and the UMNO man who said it was free and happy.