Thursday, August 28, 2008

Gambar yang tak keluar tv dan paper

Seals: They were allowed to "perform" in the NO MAN ZONE that the police created during the last Permatang Pauh by-election?

How will this be translated when the world see this in a Muslim country? They are insulting the nation.

Several Barisan reps may join Pakatan, says Kedah MB

ALOR STAR: Pakatan Rakyat’s “Permatang Pauh to Putrajaya” campaign slogan for the Permatang Pauh by-election has triggered a possible crossover in Kedah, said Kedah Mentri Besar Datuk Seri Azizan Abdul Razak.

He said several Barisan Nasional assemblymen had “hinted” through SMSes that they may be interested in joining Pakatan Rakyat.

“From the way the messages were written, I can read what is on their minds,” he said, adding that some of the messages were sent directly by the assemblymen and others via third parties.

Azizan acknowledged that he was aware of Barisan's attempts to “snatch” some of the Pakatan Rakyat assemblymen.

For Barisan to regain control of the state, at least five assemblymen need to cross over. Currently, Barisan holds 14 of the 36 state seats.

Selangor Mentri Besar Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim said Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim's victory in the by-election showed that people wanted change irrespective of race, colour or religion.

“We are moving on a new mindset where the people want a competent, accountable and transparent administration,” he said.

PAS spiritual adviser Datuk Nik Abdul Aziz Nik Mat predicted the end of Umno and the rise of Islam based on the result of the by-election.

“It is the end of Umno’s era of using nationalism as its struggle and development as a means to cheat people,” he said.

Penang Deputy Chief Minister I Mohammad Fairus Khairuddin said the alleged graft cases involving two Perak executive council (exco) members had worked against Barisan.

“It was a backlash for the Barisan. And so was the swearing done by Saiful (Bukhari Azlan).

“In the end, they all helped to propagate a wind of change that blew in the direction of (Datuk Seri) Anwar Ibrahim, especially in terms of the Malay support,” he told reporters after making a courtesy call on Perak Mentri Besar Datuk Seri Mohammad Nizar Jamaluddin.

ISPs ordered to cut access to Malaysia Today website

PETALING JAYA: All 21 Internet Service Providers (ISPs) in the country have been ordered by the Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission (MCMC) to block the controversial Malaysia Today website, an industry source revealed.

The notices were sent out on Tuesday in accordance with Section 263 of the Communications and Multimedia Act.

“This means that MCMC is allowed to block any particular website which has committed acts that contravene the local laws of the country, for example, sedition,” the source said.

Meanwhile, Malaysia Today editor Raja Petra Kamaruddin lashed out against the blocking of the online portal, saying it was a breach of the Multimedia Super Corridor (MSC) charter.

Under the MSC Malaysia 10-Point Bill of Guarantees, it is stated that as part of its commitment to ensuring the success of MSC Status companies, the Government promised to “ensure no Internet censorship”.

“The Government has clearly broken its own promise,” said Raja Petra yesterday. Asked whether he was notified of the reasons of the blocking, he answered no.

“I will turn this into a big issue, no doubt. When it is known that the Government has violated the charter, MSC will die. I will personally see to it,” he said.

TMnet, the country's biggest ISP, Maxis and Time refused to comment.

However, at 11.30pm, a check by The Star found that Malaysia Today has launched a mirror site which can be easily accessed.

Wednesday, August 27, 2008

'Khairy, look who got buried!'

A comment that has to be noticed from

Dr SK: To all of you who voted for BN, your man Arif and none of the BN big guns or supporters had the grace to attend the announcement of the results of the Permatang Pauh by-election. ‘Thank you’ for voting for them.

It goes to show how typically ungrateful Arif and BN are. They do not care at all about how you feel - deserted in their defeat, they care only about winning.

Once again, Arif’s and BN's disappearance exemplifies exactly what is so despicable about BN.

5 ‘phantom’ buses stopped, MP and sons arrested

5 ‘phantom’ buses stopped, MP and sons arrested
August 26th, 2008
Kuek Ser Kuang Keng & Athi Veeranggan Aug 26, 08 (Malaysiakini)

Three buses - one of which was filled with passengers - have been escorted to a police station in Permatang Pauh after PKR supporters believe they were used to ferry phantom voters.

The three buses and the passengers are now at the Seberang Jaya police station while PKR leader N Gobalakrishnan, who is also Padang Serai parliamentarian, lodges a police report on his party’s suspicions.

And at about 5.30pm, two more buses suspected of carrying phantom voters, were escorted into the police station.

Gobalakrishnan told Malaysiakini that he was informed of six buses allegedly carrying phantom voters would be coming into Permatang Pauh.

Upon a quick inspection, PKR supporters found two empty buses at 2pm parked along the Butterworth-Kulim Expressway, under the watch of some police personnel.

The PKR supporters were then told by the police officers that the buses were waiting for voters to return from voting.

Gobalakrishnan had then insisted that the buses were taken to a police station pending a police report.

Cops ‘too busy’ to accept report

And on the way to the police station, the PKR group found another bus entering Permatang Pauh. This third bus was filled with passengers.

Gobalakrishnan had also wanted this bus too to be taken to the police station, along with its passengers.

It was learnt from one of the drivers that the buses were from Malacca.

The first three buses had registration numbers from Malacca, Pahang and Kuala Lumpur, and one was registered to an address in Malacca Umno building.

When Malaysiakini spoke to some of the passengers from the buses which were ‘caught’, they said that they were from Bukit Katil, Malacca and were here to support the BN candidate Arif Shah Omar Shah.

They are angry for being detained and accused of being phantom voters. The passengers were wearing white BN T-shirts and caps.

A team of riot police and a water-cannon truck have been deployed to the police station.

Gobalakrishnan and PKR secretary-general Sallehuddin Hashim went into the police station to lodge a report but came out 30 minutes empty-handed.

Gobalakrishnan told a crowd of 50 party supporters outside the building that the police were too busy to take their report. He said he would try again soon.

Gobala and sons arrested

And in a dramatic turn of events, when Gobalakrishnan went back into the police station, the MP and his two sons were arrested for “stopping the buses”.

His sons - Arvind, 20, and Pravin, 23 - were also allegedly roughed up by the police prior to their arrest.

Penang police chief Ayob Yaakob said Gobalakrishnan, his two sons and a personal aide were arrested for “stopping the buses”, which he said was “a criminal offence chargeable under the Penal Code”.

Gobalakrishnan was later taken for medical check-up at the Seberang Jaya public hospital and locked up in Seberang Perai Tengah district police headquarters in Bandar Baru Perda.

In the melee with the police, Arvind and Praveen were floored and Gobalakrishnan’s spectacles flung out from his face as police punched and kicked the four in full view of the media, PKR supporters and curious on-lookers.

They were then dragged away to the police station.

Upon seeing this, an agitated R Vasanthi, Gobalakrishnan’s wife, started to question the police on reasons behind their arrest.

At the time, a police personnel, just named as Ramli, wearing a riot police uniform hit her head with a baton.

The police brutality sparked a protest by some 50 PKR supporters shouting ‘police brutality’ and ‘reformasi.’

However, they fled the scene when riot police started to charge on them. Fortunately no one was injured as all escaped.

As for the passengers from the bus, all of whom were from Malacca, the arrival of the state’s Chief Minister Ali Rustam managed to get them freed at 7.30pm.

seals: only in Malaysia "The One Who Catch Defaulters Will Be Arrested" I guess I have done many mistakes by helping police. I guess next time I will not bother, they are paid to do the job let them investigate

Sun Shine On Rain Drop

Lim vs Koh: Lively debate on land scam

On Lim vs Koh: Lively debate on land scam

Alfred Ho: I wish to take this golden opportunity to commend both Lim Guan Eng and his personal assistant for their bravery in not giving in to the death threats that they have received as a result of the numerous land scams recently unearthed.

The death threats made on these two honourable gentlemen are most despicable, and the police should take this matter very seriously by proceeding with investigations immediately so that the perpetrators can be brought to justice and made to face the full force of the law.

From my observations, the death threats are the work of high-ranking officials from the former ruling administration.

They and are now feeling the heat and have every reason to fear the retribution that is slowly but surely coming their way.

I wish to urge Lim Guan Eng and his administration to expose the corruption that has been practised by former government officials without fear or favour.

May the full force of the law be brought upon them as an example to other officials in his administration who might plan to involve themselves in corruption in future.

DNA bill: 'They treat us like lab mice'

On DNA Bill tabled for second reading

Oppressed: Something smells fishy. Everything having to do with the tabling of the bill smells fishy.

Since the start of Anwar's unjustified sodomy charge, the DNA issue has been highly suspicious and, I believe, politically-motivated.

The opposition parties - including the Bar Council and related civil society groups with the necessary authority - should stand together to forcefully reject this obvious violation of the rule of law.

If the bill is successfully passed, the police and BN-led government will have a field day, putting every person deemed ‘suspicious' - or rather, persons who dare to question BN's administration - away.

Obviously, the first victim would be Anwar Ibrahim. How could we have ever let our judicial system fall into such rot?

Why do we allow characters like Syed Hamid Albar to call the shots in treating the people of Malaysia like mice locked in laboratory cages?

Please stand to denounce the bill. Don't let it even see the light of day.

Om Prakash: I am strongly against the bill to force anyone to give DNA samples for any criminal investigations or legal matter.

Although DNA analysis has become a modern day tool for various reasons Malaysia is not ready to implement this modern tool primarily because the authorities cannot guarantee impartiality and cannot guarantee procedural transparency as well as cannot guarantee protection of samples, records and samples.

Malaysia can only restore faith in DNA usage for criminal investigations and legal matters if complete faith in the police, judiciary and AG's chambers has been earned through the complete dismantling of racial, religious and partisan policies of the government to divide and rule its people.

Given the record of investigative inefficiency and political interference as perceived largely by the public, the DNA bill cannot be allowed to be passed in Parliament.

The onus must be on those who want to freely give their DNA sample to prove their innocence. Let us not be threatened with another draconian law like the ISA for political and law- enforcement expediency.

We are not ready to just trust anybody yet.

DNA Bill tabled and opened for debate despite opposition protests

KUALA LUMPUR (Aug 26, 2008) : Home Minister Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar tabled the Deoxyribonucleic Acid (DNA) Identification Bill 2008 for second reading in the Dewan Rakyat today despite protests by opposition MPs.

Fong Po Kuan (DAP-Batu Gajah) led the protests when she asked Deputy Speaker Datuk Ronald Kiandee why the government was being hasty in tabling the bill when the Universities and University Colleges (Amendment) Act was supposed to be tabled first.

“The UUCA Act was given to the MPs in July but the DNA Bill was only tabled for first reading last week on Aug 18. Is this made with mala fide intentions? Is the government having any side motive to this?

“We need time to discuss the Bill and make consultations. The Bar Council also wants to give its input,” she said, in asking for an explanation on the reason for Bill being brought forward and given priority.

Kiandee however said it was nothing against the law as the Standing Order gives the government the right to give priority to and expedite any particular bill which it deemed necessary.

“You have to accept the government’s decision in this matter. The law allows the government to apply its discretion here,” he said to repeated calls by Fong, saying “ada udang di sebalik batu!” (there is a hidden motive involved.)

Kiandee then suggested perhaps it was Fong who has a hidden motive for strongly objecting the tabling of the bill.

Salahuddin Ayub (PAS-Kubang Kerian) then appealed for Kiandee to consider the preparation made by the MPs as most of them had prepared to debate the UUCA Act.

“Can you please consider our preparations, the homework that we have done? We were just informed about this change (the sequence of the bills to be debated) today but we have been preparing ourselves to discuss the UUCA Act,” he said.

For the record, according to today's (Tuesday) and Monday's order paper, the DNA Bill comes first before the UUCA Act after the National Kenaf and Tobacco Board Bill.

But in last week’s order paper, the UUCA Act comes first before the DNA Bill.
Kiandee said preparation is another matter and the BN MPs too were preparing for the UUCA Act but as the chair, he held the right to allow the ministry to table the bill as it is permitted by the law.

Mahfuz Omar (PAS-Pokok Sena) then said: “Mr Speaker must look at the interest of all the MPs, not only at one side of the House.

"The BN MPs have been given a briefing by the Inspector-General of Police recently but we were not invited.”

Kiandee said the briefing had nothing to do with the DNA Bill and asked for Syed Hamid to continue tabling the bill which was opened for debate later.

At the parliament lobby later, Syed Hamid explained the DNA Bill was originally meant to come after the Kenaf and Tobacco Board Bill, but as he was not feeling well earlier, he had applied to the Parliament for it to be debated later.

“There is no sinister motive. Don’t interpret it as having sinister motive.

“It is not intended, as I see, for a particular person and that person is not charged for this Act. That person was charged out of police investigation as they were satisfied that there is a prima facie case and it is up to the court to decide.

“We are not going to use this act to make a person chargeable. That (act) is for general purpose, (so) look forward to it,” he told reporters.

He said the Kenaf Bill was deferred last week to make some amendments and it was passed today.

“So, I followed with the DNA Bill.”

“You (reporters) must remember that this thing (the Bill) has been outstanding for the last eight years and it is not something that is new.

“I think the MPs were concentrating on Permatang Pauh (by-election), they did not even listen to what I was saying.... that it is not only meant for crime but for all sorts of human investigation like missing person, kidnapped persons and disasters,” he added.

Key points of DNA Identification Bill 2008

KUALA LUMPUR (Aug 26, 2008) : The much-talked-about DNA Identification Bill 2008 is being debated in Parliament for second reading. The following are the key points in the Bill:

» The Act defines "non-intimate sample" and "intimate sample".

The former covers samples of hair (other than pubic hair), a nail or from under a nail, a swab taken from any part of a person’s body other than a part from which a swab taken would be an intimate sample or saliva

The latter means a sample of blood, semen or any other tissue or fluid taken from a person’s body, urine or pubic hair or a swab taken from any part of a person’s genitals (including pubic hair) or from a person’s body orifice other than the mouth

» Provides for the setting up of a Forensic DNA Databank Malaysia which will keep and maintain indices for the purpose of human identification in relation to forensic investigation.

» Prescribes procedures for taking, storing, disposing of DNA samples and removal of DNA profile and information.

» An intimate sample of a suspect, a detainee or a drug dependent may be taken for forensic DNA analysis only if an authorised officer authorises it to be taken and an appropriate consent in the prescribed form is given by the person from whom an intimate sample is to be taken. The authorised officer shall only give his authorisation if he has reasonable grounds for suspecting that the person from whom intimate sample is to be taken has committed an offence and that the sample will tend to confirm or disprove the commission of that offence.

» The procedures for taking of non-intimate sample are similar, except that the sample may be taken by a government medical officer or a police officer or chemist. A police officer may use all means necessary for the purpose of taking or assisting the taking of a non-intimate sample from him.

» A person who refuses to give a sample of his DNA or obstructs the taking of such a sample commits an offence and shall, on conviction, be liable to a fine not exceeding RM10,000 or be jailed not more than a year, or both.

» Any person found tampering with any DNA profile or any information shall on conviction be liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding five years or to a fine not exceeding RM50,000 or to both.

» Notwithstanding any written law to the contrary, any information from the DNA Databank shall be admissible as conclusive proof of the DNA identification in any proceedings in any court.

» No action, suit, prosecution or other proceedings shall lie or be brought, instituted or maintained in any court against the minister, the head of DNA Databank, the deputy head of DNA Databank, DNA Databank officers, a government medical officer or a chemist in respect of any act, neglect, default or omission done by him in good faith in carrying out his powers, functions and responsibilities under this Act in such capacity.

Updated: 12:33AM Wed, 27 Aug 2008

Tuesday, August 26, 2008

Final results of the Permatang Pauh by-election

These are the final results of the Permatang Pauh by-election





seals: I saw in TV they were asking "What is the message that the people are trying to deliver in the by-election"? And suggested post-mortem.

Hello.....the message was delivered in PRU-12 and BN had post mortem too. And in short time this by-election. What message they expect more and what post mortem?

I only see BN fail to deliver and I guess that they fail to put this as a point in the post mortem, just blame others never look at the self.

If BN really change then the voters/people will accept BN, or else face more disappointments...

See you in Parliamen DSAI .... do your job we are with you.

Monday, August 25, 2008

Malaysia's PM backs Anwar accuser after mosque 'stunt'

Malaysia's PM backs Anwar accuser after mosque 'stunt'

Malaysia's premier has backed the young man accusing opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim of sodomy, after the man visited a mosque to swear to his claims in an act criticised as a political stunt.

Anwar has said the allegations made by Mohamad Saiful Bukhari Azlan, a 23-year-old former aide, have been engineered by the government to prevent him from seizing power after landmark March elections.

Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi hit out at criticism of Mohamad Saiful after he was photographed last week at a city mosque, swearing on the Koran that he was telling the truth.

"According to Islam, an individual seeking justice should be respected, even though it may be a personal issue," the premier said, according to the New Straits Times Monday.

"There are those who question his method and whether he is following the right procedure but in his heart he must have a clear intention," Abdullah said.

"The incident must have been traumatic, otherwise he would not have lodged the police report."

Anwar was accused of sodomy in court this month, but the charge indicated the alleged sex act was consensual. Although under the law Mohamad Saiful would appear to be equally culpable, the government has said he will not be charged.

Mohamad Saiful said last Friday that the alleged sex act was not consensual, and that it "happened by force, without my permission."

He denied that his visit to the mosque, the day before Anwar formally registered for a by-election expected to return him to parliament after a decade-long absence, was aimed at undermining the opposition leader.

"It is just by coincidence that I made the oath today. God gave me the strength to do it," he said.

Former Indonesian president Abdurrahman Wahid on Monday came out in support of Anwar, saying he was innocent of the sodomy charges and that he hoped he would one day lead the nation.

"I think (the allegations) are wrong because I know Anwar and I believe totally in him," he told a press conference.

He also slammed Mohamad Saiful's action of swearing on the Koran as "unIslamic" and said that if he wanted to clear his name, he should go to the Sharia court as Anwar has already done.

Wahid, a liberal Islamic scholar, headed Indonesia's largest Muslim association, Nahdlatul Ulama, for 15 years before taking up the presidency from 1999 to 2001.

Nik Abdul Aziz Nik Mat, the spiritual leader of the conservative Islamic party PAS, which is a member of Anwar's opposition alliance, has also said Saiful's move to swear on the Koran was not in keeping with Islamic teachings.

"It is normal for Christians to swear on the Holy Bible and it seems that he wanted to follow the Christian way of doing it," he said, according to The Star newspaper at the weekend. "In Islam... there is no need to hold the Koran."

Anwar, who was sacked as deputy premier in 1998 and jailed for six years on sodomy and corruption charges, said Saiful's mosque visit was part of the government conspiracy.

"They are afraid of me being an MP and going on to become the opposition leader in parliament," he said last week.

‘Blatant corruption’ in Permatang Pauh?

Women, family and development minister Ng Yen Yen distributed RM200 to about 200 senior citizens above the age of 60 in Seberang Jaya today.

She did it at the Persatuan Bomba Sukarela Permatang Pauh from 2-4pm. It may look like it was kind of charity aid for senior citizens especially women, but people questioned the timing.

The receivers had too register their names with the welfare department with their identity cards.

And if one could justify the timing, then why did Yen Yen tell the participations in Hokkien: “ow jit, ay hiao cho” (direct translation=you know what to do on the day after tomorrow”).

How come? That’s like buying votes, isn’t it? Can Yen Yen justify that it is not? I am willing to listen.

By the way, I think she was quite ‘embarassed’ when she asked the crowd at the beginning of her talk “lu but wah woh?” (Do you know me?).

I heard no one responded.

Taken from

Read more @ MAFREL’s and Elizabeth Wong’s.

949 listed names missing

BUTTERWORTH: A total of 949 names have gone missing from the gazetted list of the Permatang Pauh parliamentary constituency electoral roll used in the March 8 general election, Parti Keadilan Rakyat (PKR) has charged.

The names were nowhere to be found on the updated list issued by the Election Commission, PKR election committee deputy director Fuziah Salleh claimed.

She said most of the missing names were those of the party's supporters.

However, she said 868 of the names were still in the June 19 electoral roll which was gazetted but not in the July 31 roll.

She said 83 voters were also found to have similar addresses, adding that the party believed they were “phantom voters.”

Fuziah said the EC should not use the July 31 electoral roll, which has 58,459 registered voters, as it was only an updated version which had not been gazetted.

PKR information chief Tian Chua said the party had obtained a note with the names of 200 voters who had been paid between RM100 and RM150 to vote against Anwar.

Anwar, who visited the Madrasah An-Nahdhoh, said he was unaffected by the phantom voter threat.

seals: EC, your comments?

Imam: Don’t blame me

BUKIT MERTAJAM: The imam who “witnessed” Mohd Saiful Bukhari Azlan swear on the Quran recently has urged the public to stop blaming him, saying that he was not a part of any conspiracy.

Ramlang Porigi who spoke for just five minutes during a ceramah at Padang Ibu, Permatang Pauh late last night, said he had no part in organising the entire swearing on the Quran episode, adding that he was only asked by his superiors to be present.

Mohd Saiful had sworn on the Quran in the Federal Territory mosque on Aug 15 that he was sodomised by PKR adviser Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim.

Ramlang said normally, swearing on the Quran was carried out by two disputing parties after all legal avenues had been exhausted.

seals: if this is a religious matter and Saiful has taken oath in Mosque, why not the case is taken at a Shariyah Court as Anwar said?

Ex-TI Malaysia chief joins DAP

KUALA LUMPUR: Former Transparency International (TI) Malaysia chairman Tunku Aziz Tunku Ibrahim is the latest recruit for DAP and was appointed the party’s vice-chairman.

A beaming DAP secretary-general Lim Guan Eng made the announcement about the party’s line-up at the two-day national congress yesterday.

He said Karpal Singh would remain as chairman while Dr Tan Seng Giaw would be retained as deputy chairman.

Tunku Aziz is joined by Member of Parliament for Ipoh Barat M. Kulasegaran, Penang state chairman Chow Kon Yeow, Seputeh MP Teresa Kok, and Sarawak’s Bandar Kuching MP Chong Chieng Jen as vice-chairmen.

However, there was no mention of party adviser Lim Kit Siang in the line-up although he was formerly the central policy and strategic planning commission chairman.

The deputy secretary-generals are Prof P. Ramasamy, Chong Eng and Ngeh Koo Ham while Fong Kui Lun retains the treasurer’s post. Cheras MP Tan Kok Wai retains the national organising secretary post.

Newcomer Tony Pua takes up the national publicity secretary’s post from Teresa and would be assisted by Serdang MP Teo Nie Ching.

Rasah MP Anthony Loke has been appointed the political education director with Jelutong MP Jeff Ooi as his deputy, and Bukit Bendera MP Liew Chin Tong has been appointed international secretary.

Ten members, including Tunku Aziz, were appointed to the central executive committee besides the 20 that were elected on Saturday.

Meanwhile, Tunku Aziz, who had never joined any political party before, said that while all parties spoke about democratic principles and practiced transparency and accountability, it was DAP that espoused these values.

seals: as the nature is ...water will find its way are the good people, they will find their way to the right team

Koh: Free Hindraf men in temple assembly

BUTTERWORTH: The police should free the Hindraf supporters who were arrested for participating in illegal assembly outside a Hindu temple on Saturday.

Gerakan acting president Tan Sri Dr Koh Tsu Koon said he had made a request to Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak and the police to release the detainees, if they did not have previous criminal records.

Dr Koh made the call when speaking to reporters at Kampung Bagan Serai yesterday.

“It was an emotionally-charged situation but since they were not violent, we feel that they should be released,” he said.

Nine people, including Hindraf co-ordinator R.S. Thanenthiran, were arrested outside the temple in Jalan Todak, Seberang Jaya, around 6pm when they refused to disperse after being ordered to do so by the police.

Thanenthiran and six other Hindraf supporters have been remanded until today to facilitate the police investigation.

Police released two women yesterday. Both were earlier arrested with the men for the offence.

Central Seberang Prai police media relation officer Supt Shaharon Anuar Abdul Latif confirmed that the seven were still in police custody pending the outcome of the investigation.

seals: Itu la I kata learn from UiTM, they way to get permit in few hours.

Malaysia gets roasted for Avril Lavigne cancelled concert on

Saturday, August 23, 2008

PERMATANG PAUH: Arif admits to paying "spies" to collect information

PERMATANG PAUH: Arif admits to paying "spies" to collect information
Giam Say Khoon

SEBERANG PERAI (Aug 22, 2008): Barisan Nasional candidate for the Permatang Pauh by-election Datuk Arif Shah Omar Shah today admitted to paying local residents to help gather information and gauge voter sentiments, saying that this should not be taken to mean vote buying.

Without disclosing how many people were recruited for this purpose, he said the money was paid not only to BN campaign workers but also to some residents to act as "spies", although they are not told who they were working for.

"We pay them for going to the ground and gathering information for us. Some of them (voters) do not even know that they are 'working' for BN simply because we never tell them that they are getting information for us. This is how our machinery works," he said when met at his house.

"With additional money to 'operate', our spies can go the coffeeshops to talk to the people and to collect information, so that we can know what is really happening in the constituency; not that we want to buy votes."

Arif Shah said the Parti Keadilan Rakyat (PKR) actually wished to do the same, "but we do it first, so now they are using this to attack us."

He was asked about comments by PKR information chief Tian Chua that some voters in Permatang Pauh were getting RM50 to RM300 for cpies of their identity cards, adding that the amount varied according to location and races.

He had advised voters not to accept the money and to vote without fear and according to their conscience.

On this, Arif Shah explained that the BN did not take the voters' identity cards, but merely recorded the identity card numbers for audit purpose.

"We want to know where our money has gone. It is easier for our auditors to check if we have the identity of those who received the money. PKR has been condemning such tactics used by the BN as the Opposition has already received numerous complaints on the incident; however, no voters who received the money dares to testify in public."

Arif Shah also said he is optimistic on his chances to be elected as the MP for the constituency, with only three more days of campaigning left. Polling is on Tuesday.

He described the participation of the Angkatan Keadilan Insan Malaysia (Akim) president Hanafi Mamat in the by-election as being to the disadvantage of PKR, as it would split the opposition votes.

"We know that PAS is silently disagreeing with PKR; so I believe a lot of PAS votes will go to Akim and if Hanafi says he is confident of getting 5,000 votes (as reported in the newspaper), this means PKR will lose 5,000 votes, which is good for me," he said.

However, when asked, Arif Shah denied that Hanafi was planted by BN to split the votes.
Penang Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng, when met at the Butterworth Welfare Department where he gave monetary aid to the needy, lamented that as a candidate, Arif Shah should not use such tactics and that he should be disqualified as a candidate.

"This is the culture of BN, we (Pakatan Rakyat) will never do something like this. If BN wanted to give money to the people, it should give to all and not only limited to Permatang Pauh voters or during a general election or by-election," he told reporters.

However, Lim, who is DAP's secretary-general, said the idea of using informers can only be accepted if it is for the purpose of upholding justice and fighting corruption.

Asked if the Election Commission should act against Arif Shah, he said the commission must take action because as a candidate, he is not even supposed to buy meals for people.

"But the commission uses double standards. If we are using such tactics, it is definite we will be sanctioned by the commission for violating election laws. So we urge the people not to accept the money from BN," he added.

Friday, August 22, 2008

Parents: Teachers targeting Indian pupils


KLANG: More cases of teachers picking on Indian students here have emerged.
Several parents of children attending a primary school here have lodged police reports since November last year alleging that five teachers in the school had physically and verbally abused Indian students.

R. Sathasnam, 52, said he and another parent had complained to the school’s administration repeatedly but the abuses continued.

He alleged that these five teachers regularly hit the students and told them to transfer out of the school, as they (the teachers) were “fed-up of seeing their faces”.

“One of the teachers called some Indian students derogatory names ,” alleged Sathasnam.

He alleged that many Indian students were slapped, kicked, punched and caned by these
teachers for misdemeanours such as talking while lining-up to enter the classroom.

“My 10-year-old son was lifted-up by the ears by a male teacher and slapped and kicked for talking before entering the classroom after recess in February,” alleged Sathasnam.

He claimed his son’s ears turned blue-black and his cheeks swelled after the beating. When he rushed his son to the Tengku Ampuan Rahimah Hospital, the doctor there advised him to file a police report.

Another parent R. Viganaspary, 40, said her son was repeatedly hit on the head with a rolled-up newspaper and caned on the legs for not having a particular exercise book.

Meanwhile, Coalition of Malaysian Indian NGOs secretary Gunaraj George, who met Sathasnam and Viganaspary recently, said the coalition would present a memorandum on the matter to Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi soon.

“These are young impressionable children and the alleged incidents will only teach them to hate,” said Gunaraj.

When contacted, Deputy Minister in the Prime Minister’s Department Senator T. Murugiah said he would speak to the principal next week when school reopens.

Deputy Education Minister Dr Wee Ka Siong said he would comment only after he had seen copies of the police reports.

The alleged incident in the primary school comes on the heels of the transfer of a teacher from a secondary school in Banting. The teacher is facing an inquiry after she admitted to levelling racial slurs against Indian students.

seals: It is waste of time sending memo.

Learn from what UiTM did, do it the UiTM way.

And file a court case against the teacher and name the Headmaster, State Education Director, Minister and the Government as the defendants!

Hindu Temples & Crematoriums To Be Phased Out Of Kuala Lumpur ?

More than 120 temple representatives present at a meeting organized by Malaysia Hindu Sangam at the Dewan Tan Sri K R Soma, KL yesterday were shocked that their temples and 2 existing Hindu Crematoriams were not identified at the master Plan of City of Kuala Lumpur by 2020.

What is of great concern to the community leaders is whether there is a plan to erase off hundreds of Hindu Temples and 2 crematoriams at Jalan Loke Yew and Sentul by the year 2020.

There was a feeling of disappointment and disgust when they were briefed on the Master Plan.

They were informed that they have to send their note of protest using the appropriate DBKL Form by 30th August 2008.

About 100 forms were distributed at the meeting.

Briefings were made by MHS President Datuk A.Vaithilingam, IT Consultant Mr. Chin Meng Sun, MHS Temples Advisor Ir Ariathavaratnam, MHS Temples Affairs Committee Chairman Mr. G.gunaraj and Bukit Jalil Social worker Mr. Thiagarajan. All those who are not able to obtain the DBKL Master Plan Books are requested to go online and visit and try and identify the location of their temple.

It does not matter whether the temple is registered with ROS or with our MHS or is said to be illegal and of the temple is not identified in the plan please get the forms from DBKL or ring 012-392 5995 (Mr. Gunaraj), 012-328 7823 (Mr.Chin), 016-3674304 (Mr. Thiagaraj) or 016-277 1495 (Ir. Ariathavaratnam) for advice or on how to obtain the forms.

All temples are advised to immediately submit their protests to DBKL and send a copy of the protest form to Malaysian Hindu Sangam at No. 67, Jalan PJS 1/48, Taman Petaling Utama 7, 46150 Petaling Jaya, Selangor, Fax 03-77847304

All protests must reach DBKL by 30th August 2008

Dated 20th August 2008
Datuk A Vaithilingam
President Malaysia Hindu Sangam

seals: Why wait? send your protest note and cast your vote to PKR.

Monday, August 18, 2008

Perak Gerakan mulls calling for party to leave BN

Perak Gerakan mulls calling for party to leave BN
By Humayun Kabir

IPOH (Aug 17, 2008): Fed-up with racial and religious sentiments played up by certain Barisan Nasional component parties for their own political millage, Perak Gerakan is contemplating calling for the party to leave the coalition.

The majority of the 378 Gerakan delegates who attended the party state delegates meeting today, expressed disgust at the fanning of racial and religious issues which is causing much anxiety and concern among Malaysians at large.

"Racial and religious sentiments have been fanned by a few component parties for the past five months since March 8, causing much uneasiness and fear among Malaysians as to the path the country is heading to," said Perak Gerakan chairman Datuk Chang Ko Youn.

"Most of the delegates at today’s party meeting expressed their wish that Gerakan pull out of BN as they are unhappy over the fanning of sensitive issues that would bring disunity among fellow Malaysians."

"That this is against the party’s principles which advocates the concept of Malaysia for all Malaysians which is free from racial and religious politics," he told reporters after the meeting officiated by Acting Gerakan president Tan Sri Dr Koh Tsu Koon.

Present at the meet were party adviser Tun Lim Keng Yaik, National Youth chairman Datuk Mah Siew Keong and senator Datuk Dr S. Vijayaranam.

Chang said the move to leave BN has taken shape last year by many party members but this momentum to leave the BN coalition only gained speed after March 8th general elections.

"This issue will be debated in the party’s Annual General Meeting (AGM) in October and a decision (whether to leave or stay with BN) will be taken at the meeting."

Similar views were also voiced by PGRM National chairwoman Datuk Tan Lian Hoe who said that many state as well as federal level wanita party delegates had voiced such a call to leave BN.

"We will forward the request to the party. The issue is expected to be debated extensively and hotly before a decision is made on the matter," said Tan, who is also state Wanita chief and Deputy Information Minister.

Similar sentiments were also expressed by newly elected state Youth Chief Chuah Chee Kuan who said it is about time that Malaysians think as one instead of along racial lines.

Later, Koh who was with Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi in Permatang Pauh to campaign for Barisan Nasional said the issue of Gerakan leaving BN does not exist.

Commenting on Tan' statement asking Gerakan to leave BN because Umno was too racist, Koh said Tan was merely reflecting the feedback of the people.

"I was shocked to hear her making the statement. (She) as a Deputy Information Minister will get a lot of feedback from the people and I think what she was saying was the voice of the people.

"I am still unable to contact her, but the party will talk about it," he told reporters when the question was posed to Abdullah.

"The issue of Gerakan leaving BN does not exist," he stressed.

seals: this is the right move GERAKAN, MCA and MIC should follow. A party is formed out of peoples voice. If you get such feedback from people (to move out of BN) then do so.

JAIS raids pub, in high handed manner

JAIS raids pub, in high handed manner
by Charles Ramendran

KUALA LUMPUR (aug 17, 2008) : A band manager is crying foul over the high-handed and rude manner in which the Selangor Religious Affairs department (Jais) raided a five-star hotel pub in Glenmarie, Shah Alam early yesterday.

K.Selvaraj, the manager of eight-piece veteran pop band NRG who were performing at The Pub at the Holiday Inn Glenmarie, said about 15 Jais personnel who arrived in several cars and vans barged into the place at about 1am and began yelling at everyone about their presence.

He said the patrons, staff and band members were ordered by the Jais men to hand over their identity cards, and about an hour later the non-Muslims on the premises were released.

“Several foreigners who were guests of the hotel were visibly upset and asked why such a thing occurred and why they, as non-Muslims, were held for almost an hour when all they wanted to do was to unwind by having a drink,” Selva said.He said during the two-hour raid, members of the band were posed ridiculous questions about their work as musicians.

“They shouted and warned those behind that they never want to see their faces in the place again.

One officer asked band leader and vocalist Jasminor if his wife knew what he did for a living. What is wrong with what he was doing, is he not making an honest living?” he said.

He said about 100 patrons, band members and pub staff, all of whom are Muslims, were served with notices to present themselves at the Jais office in 10 days or face up to two months imprisonment or a RM3,000 fine.

He said the notice did not state the offence they are being hauled up for.“I understand if Jais wants to apprehend Muslims for consuming alcohol as they may have the authority to do so but my band members do not drink alcohol,” he said.

Selvaraj said he intends to sue Jais for insulting, causing embarrassment and treating his band members like criminals.

Updated: 07:32PM Sun, 17 Aug 2008

It is learnt that the JAIS officers raided the pub without the police. - STAR (

seals: Hmmm is only Holiday Inn the only Hotel employed muslims in PUB and BAR? If they serious about is they should raid all 5 STARs in Malaysia. Why Holiday Inn was selected in this SPECIAL raid?

How about Muslim shop selling liquor? In KLIA, at Langkawi ?

Friday, August 15, 2008

Guan Eng’s two-in-one offer to voters

GEORGE TOWN: Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng's message to Permatang Pauh voters is simple – “choose one, get one free”.

“Anwar Ibrahim will not only represent the constituency if chosen as an MP but also has a shot in leading the country by becoming the next prime minister.”

Lim said Barisan Nasional's candidate Datuk Arif Shah Omar Shah would still serve the area even if he lost as he was already Seberang Jaya assemblyman.

He called on his Pakatan Rakyat counterparts not to underestimate Arif Shah as the latter “must be Umno's best candidate” since he was chosen from several hopefuls including Permatang Pauh Umno division chief Datuk Abdul Jalil Abdul Majid and other key leaders.

“I urge Pakatan to work hard and not underestimate our opponent. It won’t be an easy battle,” he said at a press conference after opening the Air Itam Teambuilding Centre (AITC) at the Air Itam Dam yesterday.

Lim described Arif Shah as a “good man” but whose party had problems.
Penang PKR’s information chief Abdul Malik Kassim said Arif Shah was no competition to Anwar.

Abdul Malik joked that Anwar was more kacak (handsome) than Arif Shah.

seals: True Guan Eng, like it or not he still have to serve there. Vote for PKR/PR Amwar Ibrahim and this will get Anwar to serve the people and will push UMNO to work harder and you will get the PM from Permatang Pauh.

If you are a BN supporter, by voting PR you will get BN to work harder for the people. This is a win-win situation. VOTE PR/Anwar

Blame the politicians for protesters’ conduct

Blame the politicians for protesters’ conduct

THE conduct of protesters outside the Bar Council building and the few of them who were escorted into the auditorium by the police last Saturday, resulting in the disruption of a forum, puts Malaysia’s political maturity behind 20-30 years.

The protesters could not have been so bold and confident if not for the earlier media statements of some politicians calling on the council to call off the forum or do it behind closed doors because of the subject’s "sensitive nature". The home minister was even reported to have said that the council should bear the consequences if it went on with the forum.

One would have expected these same politicians, in this day and time, to prevail upon the extremist groups for tolerance and understanding. Religious tolerance can be nurtured only by dialogue and understanding. Politicians should take the lead and be seen to be encouraging such dialogue in the process of educating the citizenry.

After 51 years of independence and being a sovereign state, currently in the UN Human Rights Council and now taking the chair of the executive committee of the Commonwealth Parliamentary Association, the government’s role in promoting religious tolerance domestically is not only dismal but also shameful, going by last Saturday’s events.

Being a multi-racial, multi-religious and multi-lingual state, Malaysia today could be a shining example to other nations of inter-ethnic and religious tolerance. We are sadly not so. Malaysia’s human development in this area is most disheartening.

The conduct of the police last Saturday once again demonstrates the continued deterioration of the integrity and credibility of the Malaysian police.

Param Cumaraswamy
Kuala Lumpur

seals: Blame the politicians again as law makers they kept this matter unsolved that dragged the matter till it has to be discussed in an open forum by Bar Council.

Thursday, August 14, 2008

Visit To Durian Orchid

Students’ rally had police permit

Students’ rally had police permit

by Charles

SHAH ALAM: The UiTM students who held a rally on Tuesday to condemn Selangor Mentri Besar Tan Sri Abdul Khalid Ibrahim for proposing that the university open up 10% of its student intake to non-bumiputras had a police permit for the gathering.

Selangor police chief DCP Datuk Khalid Abu Bakar said the students had applied for a permit with Shah Alam police a day before the protest and, after evaluating the application, the permit was approved.

He said the approval came with terms and conditions, such as the rally should only be held during off-peak hours and the participants should abide by all police orders.

Asked how the permit was approved within hours after it was applied for when there was a requirement for it to be submitted several days earlier, Khalid said: “That is true but we had to use discretion and see if the gathering could cause any disruptions to the daily routine in the area.

“We found that since the organisers had personally met us and agreed to abide by the rules we set, we gave the permission to carry it out. The organisers kept their word and everything went smoothly.”

seals: hmmmm ..who applied for the permit? The Uni or the students? If Uni, can they organise a rally? If student, can an individual apply?

Two condemn calls to use ISA, Sedition Act

PETALING JAYA: The Centre for Independent Journalism (CIJ) and Writers Alliance for Media Independence (Wami) have condemned calls to use the Internal Security Act (ISA) and Sedition Act against the Bar Council for organising the “Conversion to Islam” forum last Saturday. The forum was aborted shortly after it started because of pressure from a group of about 500 protesters.

Wami chairman Wong Chin Huat said CIJ and Wami are dismayed by the response of the government and leading political parties for not only taking no part in assuaging the confl agration of their constituencies, but actually allowing key leaders to infl ame the anger of the protesters by calling for such draconian sanctions.

On Monday, Utusan Malaysia quoted Umno vice-president Datuk Seri Mohd Ali Rustam as calling for Bar members to be detained under the ISA, which allows for indefinite detention without trial, while PAS Youth chief Salahuddin Ayub wanted the SeditionAct invoked on the organisers of the forum.

Members from both rival political parties were involved in the protest against the forum, which was held to discuss legal issues arising from a person’s conversion to Islam. “CIJ and Wami are deeply concerned by these calls, which we see as refl ective of an authoritarian administration that represses the voices and grievances of minority groups,” Wong added ina statement.

“We are also alarmed that PAS has indicated a similar authoritarian streak, despite its promise of a more civil governance which garnered the party much support in the March 8 general election. “We call upon PAS, which has always opposed ISA, to reiterate its commitment to democracy, human rights and open governance in its Muktamar this weekend.

“The calls for the use of the ISA and Sedition Act to clamp down open discussion on the constitution, family law and religious administration refl ect the desire to perpetuate communalism.” Wong said the prohibition of and obstruction to Malaysians discussing issues of grave concern in a civil manner has prevented the nation from maturing politically as a people and that has made its independence hollow.

“CIJ and Wami call on the Barisan Nasional and PAS leaders to retract their extreme calls for the use of the ISA and Sedition Act. Both laws should be done away with, for they are a deterrent to freedom of expression and are open to abuse,” he said

Karpal defends Khalid's proposal

PETALING JAYA (Aug 13, 2008) : DAP chairman Karpal Singh today defended Selangor Mentri Besar Tan Sri Abdul Khalid Ibrahim's proposal that 10% of new student intake in Universiti Teknologi Mara (UiTM) be reserved for non-bumiputra and foreign students.

"The suggestion is one which should be welcomed by all. The time has come for all institutes of higher learning to be open to all Malaysians.There is no question of Abdul Khalid betraying the Malay race," said Karpal who condemned public opposition to Abdul Khalid's suggestion.

"I am somewhat taken aback by the unwarranted remarks by Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi on this suggestion. When he became Prime minister, Abdullah is on record for saying he was the Prime Minister for all Malaysians," said Karpal.

"The country should not practice apartheid in any form. I cannot understand why after 51 years of independence, considerations of race are still the order of the day," said Karpal, who criticised the students' actions and police's tolerance of Monday's demonstration in protest of Khalid's suggestion.

Updated: 07:13PM Wed, 13 Aug 2008

Wednesday, August 13, 2008

Samy Vellu: Why ‘reward’ racist teacher?


KUALA LUMPUR: MIC president Datuk Seri S. Samy Vellu has expressed surprise that the teacher who had hurled racist slurs at the Indian community has been transferred to a better school.

“I don’t know whether it is an appreciation to the teacher for the derogatory words," he said.
The 35-year-old history teacher had admitted to using racial slurs and verbally abusing her students after two students had lodged police reports, sparking protests from parents and community members at the school last week.

She apologised and was transferred to another school, reportedly one closer to her home.
Samy Vellu said that he would be writing to Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi to point out that people like this were responsible for chasing away many supporters from Barisan Nasional.

“I feel the Education Ministry should be more sensitive to matters like this, where a whole community was insulted by a teacher, who is a government servant,” he said when contacted.
He said the director-general of education must also look into this as such incidents destroy the basic foundation of cooperation in this country.

seals: Teachers out there .... you don't have to apply to be transfered to a better school or a school near to your home ... this is a faster and better way to get things done.

Students out there, if your teacher use this method to get a transfer please don't report to police as it is just a waste of time, as nothing will be done.

This is not the only time: Apology for agama syaitan?

NGOs continue to slam forum protesters

NGOs continue to slam forum protesters
by Tim

PETALING JAYA ( Aug 12, 2008) : The "mob" which forcibly disrupted a forum organised by the Bar Council last Saturday were branded as "terrorists" by Sisters In Islam (SIS) and strongly condemned by other non-governmental organisations (NGOs).

SIS programme manager Norhayati Kaprawi said violent acts of placing Molotov bombs in the Bar building and throwing similar bombs into a house formerly owned by Bar chairman Datuk Ambiga Sreenevasan, severely tarnished the image of Islam and was "tantamount to terrorism".
Norhayati said in a statement today SIS believes it is the right of any Malaysian to discuss serious and pressing issues affecting them.

"The cases of Shamala and Subashini are issues that affect non-Muslim spouses and they have the right to discuss ways and means to solve any problems that might arise in terms of custody, inheritance or alimony. SIS strongly condemns violent acts of such nature and Malaysians cannot simply tolerate such violence."

She added that political parties which promised people the freedom of speech and human rights previously failed terribly and proved they can't fulfil their promises in their manifesto, as evident in Saturday's incident.

Suaram (Suara Rakyat Malaysia) said in a statement the disruption of the forum was a serious violation against freedom of expression.

"While standing firm in the principle of the right to hold peaceful demonstrations, Suaram deplores the threats and intimidations made by the protesters," the statement read.
"In particular, the actions of Kulim-Bandar Baru parliamentarian Zulkifli Nordin who instigated the crowd to storm into the Bar building must be condemned.

"That a forum merely intended to openly discuss real and pressing issues faced by our nation cannot be tolerated speaks volume of the worrying level of intolerance in Malaysia," it said.
Suaram also questioned the conduct of the police in handling the incident.

Another NGO set up to help citizens in trouble, Jerit (Jaringan Rakyat Tertindas), said freedom of religion was a fundamental human right enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (Article 18) and guaranteed by the Federal Constitution (Article 11).

"This basic constitutional right should not be overruled by the authorities' or the mainstream interpretation of religion.

Jerit also slammed Parti Keadilan Rakyat and PAS for failing to stand by their promises made in the recent general election that discrimination against religions would not take place and freedom of religion will be upheld.

"Discussions on issues of religion should be allowed to take place in order to promote greater understanding and tolerance among various races and religion," Jerit's statement read.
In a joint media statement, the Kuala Lumpur and Selangor Chinese Assembly Hall, an umbrella organisation of more than 400 Chinese community-based organisations, called upon all Malaysians to categorically express their disapproval of the actions of a small minority that resorted to intimidatory action to stop the forum.

"While it is necessary for all Malaysians to be mindful of religious sensitivities, such respect must not extend to the condoning of extreme acts which are aimed at curbing legitimate public discussion.

"If the protest outside the Bar building had been civil and dignified, it would have been fully acceptable.

The statement also said it was unfortunate that there were abusive shouts such as "babi" (pigs) and "pengkhianat" (traitors) and that indicated an alarming level of religious intolerance.

The statement also commended PKR's prompt censure of Zulkifli Nordin's abusive behaviour and called on the authorities to fully investigate and bring the pepertrators to book.

seals: I will place the responsibility on the people who let the protest go without any arrest even after having found the Molotov bomb. And allowing the man to walkin to the hall. There was no tear gas or water gun.

10-year-old boy alleges 10 hours of torture by cops

10-year-old boy alleges 10 hours of torture by cops
by Humayun

IPOH (Aug 12, 2008) : A 10-year-old school has alleged that Kampar police tortured him for about 10 hours last Wednesday after he was accused of committing theft by his teacher.

N. Logeswaran’s father Nagarajan, 51, lodged a police report last Friday on behalf of his son who accused the police of subjecting him to physical torture and trauma.

Nagarajan said his son was handcuffed to his back and police choked him, hung him upside down during interrogation.

Logeswaran was also threatened and terrorised with a parang and a gun held by policemen if he did not admit stealing the teacher's belongings. His legs were also bound and had his head banged against the wall, resulting in large swell on the back of his head.

He also alleged police attempted to burn his private parts with a lighted plastic covering but his son managed to wriggle away and the burning plastic drippings burned his right foot.

Logeswaran was released after his mother P. Santhi posted a RM500 police bail and will face a charge in the Kampar magistrate 's court at 8.30am on Sept 9.

Logeswaran's ordeal started when his school teacher N.Kristina,of SRK Kampar went to his house last Tuesday and complained to Santhi that her son had stolen RM700, her identity card, driving licence and other documents from her.

Kristina then checked Logeswaran’s pockets and his school bag but did not find her belongings.
The following day, at about 12.30pm, Logeswaran was picked up by police in his school and taken to the Kampar police station for interrogation.

Santhi rushed to the police station but she was not allowed to see her son as the interrogation was in progress.

She heard her son crying out in pain and after 10 hours of interrogation, Logeswaran was released at 10.30pm.

Logeswaran complained of severe pain on the back of his head which was swollen and he started to vomitting.

The next day, Nagarajan then took his son to the Kampar Hospital where the doctor told Nagarajan to get a police request for a medical examination Form 59, as this was a police case and only then will the hospital conduct the medical examination of his son.

However, the doctor told Nagarajan that his son had suffered head injuries and had to see a specialist in Ipoh Hospital for further evaluation of his head injuries.

Logeswaran was warded in Ipoh Hospital for two days and then discharged.

Today, Logeswaran and his parents together with Parti Sosialis Malaysia (PSM) central committee member Dr Michael Jeyakumar Devaraj and other PSM members were in the state police headquarters to hand over a memorandum to CPO DCP Datuk Zulkifli Abdullah, urging him to take action against the Kampar police personnel who allegedly tortured Logeswaran.

Logeswaran's lawyer G. Balasunderam, 50, said the Penal Code under Section 82 states: "Nothing is an offence which is done by a child under 10 years of age." Logeswaran is only nine years and 10 months old.

Balasunderam said under the Child Act 2001, a child suspect should be under the supervision of a welfare officer when interrogated by police.

He is giving the police 14 days to respond to the memorandum and punish the culprits, failing which legal action will be instituted against Kampar police and SRK Kampar.

Updated: 06:41PM Tue, 12 Aug 2008

seals: Malaysia Boleh

Tuesday, August 12, 2008

Bar Council: Speed up marriage act amendments

Bar Council: Speed up marriage act amendments

KUALA LUMPUR: The amendments to the Law Reform (Marriage and Divorce) Act 1976 must be sped up to resolve conflicts and clarify procedures on conversion.

Bar council chairman Datuk Ambiga Sreenevasan said it was necessary to push for the amendments to resolve conflicts in civil marriages where conversion took place.

"I attended a close-door discussion, chaired by the Attorney-General, on the amendments to the Act about a year ago but have not heard or attended meetings since then," she told reporters on Monday after attending the Bar Council's seminar on Sedition Laws -- Impact on Freedom of Speech in Contemporary Society.

Various non-governmental organisations had called for an amendment to the Act, including requiring those who converted to Islam to abide by civil law in terms of maintenance, custody and matrimonial property.

Gerakan acting president Tan Sri Dr Koh Tsu Koon has urged the joint committee of civil and Syariah lawyers to meet soon to resolve religious conversion issues in a marriage between a Muslim and a non-Muslim, custody and burial rights.

The committee was formed to find solutions following controversial problems involving Muslim converts after death and the breakdown of marriages.

At Monday's seminar, Ambiga said it was the responsibility of all, including lawyers and the media, to speak up against oppressive laws to ensure "that lawmakers are aware that we are not happy with the law."

Malaysians in general, she said, were maturing and did not react violently based on everything they read although "arrests under the Internal Security Act and the constant threat of the Sedition Act was something of concern."

"I have faith in the Malaysian public's ability to process information. But we need to ask ourselves if we are ready to discuss matters rationally without the constant threat of sedition," she added.

Meanwhile, lawyer Dipendra Harshad Raj said the government must be prepared to accept criticisms and not use the Sedition Act to suppress freedom.

Forum panelist and Malaysia Today online editor Raja Petra said no government that curtailed the freedom of expression should be tolerated and one must speak up and fight to reform oppressive laws.

"The freedom of speech is a basic principle in Islam. Any Muslim who supports the Sedition Act is not a Muslim. We need to speak up to bring changes. If we don't how is the government going to listen," he said.

Raja Petra said the protest on Saturday did not represent the views of all Muslims.

seals: this will change when the government changes...

Switch telco but keep your number from next month

From next month, mobile phone users in Kuala Lumpur will benefit from the "Mobile Number Portability (MNP)" system which allows them to switch service providers while retaining their numbers.

Energy, Water and Communications Minister Datuk Shaziman Abu Mansor said users in the rest of the country would enjoy this benefit from October.Telecommunication companies are allowed to charge a maximum of RM25 for the service. Hong Kong, the United Kingdom, the United States, Europe, Australia, South Korea and Taiwan are among countries which have implemented this system. Shaziman said the government intended to enhance mobile phone coverage from the present 92 per cent to 97 per cent by the end of 2010 through the "Time 3" programme.

Felda and Felcra sites, Orang Asli settlements, federal roads and new tourist spots will be covered.Shaziman said through the "Time 3" programme, 1,250 telecommunication towers would be built in two phases.

Work on the first phase began last month and will be completed in December next year with 600 towers.The second phase will involve the construction of 650 towers starting next July. Work is scheduled to be completed by the end of 2010.In the case of Sarawak, Shaziman said 39 towers would be built under the first phase and 614 in the second at a cost of RM244 million."Mobile phone coverage in Sarawak will be enhanced to 85 per cent by the end of 2010." -- Bernama

Bar Council pledges to press on

Bar Council pledges to press on
by Tan Yi Liang
KUALA LUMPUR (Aug 11, 2008) : The Bar Council said today it will not be cowed by last Saturday's demonstration in protest against its forum on conversion to Islam and will continue to speak up on the legal aspects of the issue.

Its vice-president, Ragunath Kesevan, stressed that the council's interest is in discussing and helping to resolve the conflict of laws and it had, at no point, challenged the validity of Islam in Malaysia or questioned Article 121 (1)(A) of the Federal Constitution, as alleged by certain quarters.

"We have to speak to the stakeholders (in this issue). We cannot drop the issue just because of pressure," he told a press conference at the council office here.

On Saturday's forum, which was cut short because of the rowdy protest by some 500 people, Ragunath said the forum was merely discussing the conflict of laws on matrimonial matters.

"We have reiterated, many times, in all our press statements that we do not question Article 121(1)A of the Federal Constitution. We accept the position and the rule of Article 121," he said.
Ragunath said members of the council held a meeting after the incident on Saturday and nanimously supported the decision to hold the forum.

"We believe the issue is that of freedom of expression. If you cannot hold a meeting in a peaceful manner, I do not think we are mature enough to call ourselves a democratic society," he said.
"If the Bar Council cannot organise such a forum, then who is to organise such a forum? This is not a sectarian forum being held in a church, temple or mosque. This is a forum organised by the council, involving everybody.

"We did not hold the forum in a football stadium or Dataran Merdeka. It was held in the council auditorium."

He said that while attendance at the forum was open, it was controlled as the participants had to register first and it was held within the council's premises.

Ragunath said legal conflicts such as what Malaysians are facing today are not peculiar to Malaysia "Any nation with two systems of law will face problems. But that does not mean the problems cannot be solved," he said.

He said such forums were essential to resolving the conflicts.

"The first step to solving problems is to hear what the issues are. We need to understand the views of the Muslims, why they take that position. We need to understand the views of the non-Muslims as well before we impose a solution," he said.

"There were many things that could have been discussed, to know how to go forward with these issues (conflict of laws). We have no problem listening to (proposed) solutions. We need to explore all solutions and proposals."

Referring to advice to hold closed forums for such sensitive issues, Ragunath said he did not think it would work.

"You need to understand the problems faced by the people (through open sharing)," he said.
He also said last Saturday's forum attracted a significant Muslim presence. "Fifty percent of the participants were Muslim," he said.

Among those who opposed the forum were Umno, PAS and Parti Keadilan Rakyat leaders

seals: very true .....

Monday, August 11, 2008

Scenes of anti forum protest

300 protest Bar's 'conversion' forum

Fiery speeches against forum

Rival groups unified in protest

Final scenes of anti forum protest

Najib: Forum disruption expected

Najib: Forum disruption expected
Maria J. Dass and Husna Yusop

KUALA LUMPUR (Aug 10, 2008): Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Abdul Razak said today the disruption of the Bar Council's open forum on conversion to Islam was "expected" and blamed the council for being "stubborn" in not listening to advice from the authorities.

Commenting on Saturday's forum which had to be ended prematurely due to a noisy protest by about 500 people outside the venue in Lebuh Pasar Besar here, Najib said: "We expected this to happen and we had already told them that holding an open forum on this issue would invoke this sort of reaction from some groups, but they were stubborn."

"We live in a multiracial country and we have been able to live peacefully so far because we have been tolerant, respectful of the sensitivities of all races and by adhering to the tenets of the Federal Constitution.

"If we dispute these basic ideals, it will definitely evoke reaction from other groups. So if we were to upset this, it will evoke disagreement which can affect our peace and harmony," he said, after opening the Bumiputera Real Estate Convention and Exhibition 2008.

Meanwhile, Bar Council president Datuk Ambiga Sreenevasan said the forum would not have been a big hoo-ha had the title of the discussion been more "Muslim-friendly".
She said the lawyers were trying to find a solution for family members affected by the conversion of one family member to Islam due to the conflicts relating to jurisdiction between the syariah and civil courts.

"Apart from legal issues, we must focus on humanitarian issues. It is important that we realise that R. Subashini, T. Saravanan and S. Shamala are real people. So, these are humanitarian issues we are dealing with," she said at the opening of the forum on Saturday.

The forum, titled "Conversion to Islam: Article 121(1a) of the Federal Constitution: Subashini and Shamala Revisited," attended by about 200 participants including the media, was originally scheduled to take place from 8.30am to 1pm.

Demonstrators gathered in front of the Bar Council secretariat building chanted Allahu Akbar, carrying placards and banners and shouted for it to stop. They were representatives of Muslim NGOs and political parties, including the Muslim Consumers Association of Malaysia (PPIM), Peninsular Malay Students Federation (GPMS), Muslim Organisations in Defence of Islam (Pembela), Malaysian Islamic Propagation and Welfare Organisation (Pekida), Alumni of Umno Club Overseas Students, PAS Youth and Parti Keadilan Rakyat.

Due to the growing tension, the police advised the organisers to stop the forum, which had started at 8.40am, earlier than scheduled and Ambiga announced that the forum would wrap up at 10am.

However, 25 minutes later, a group of protestors led by GPMS vice-president Jais Abdul Karim and Pembela member Zulkifli Noordin, who is also PKR Kulim-Bandar Baru MP, accompanied by the police, marched into the auditorium on the 1st floor of the building where the forum was held.

At that time, former Suhakam commissioner Dr Mehrun Siraj was giving her views but was told off rudely by one of those in the group, who said he represented Umno, that she was conspiring with the un-Islamic goings-on in the forum.

When the group became vociferous, Ambiga declared the forum closed at 10am.
Earlier, the forum heard eyewitness accounts from two women whose lives were affected by the conversion of their fathers to Islam and a spontaneous sharing from a German woman who was a Muslim convert.

The first was a young Chinese woman whose father embraced Islam to marry an Iranian Muslim. The second was an older Indian woman, a devout Christian, whose father married a Malay Muslim and the family underwent conflict with religious authorities when her father died.

The German married a Malaysian Malay in England and was converted to Islam by his family when they moved here, only to be divorced and abandoned after 10 years. Her second marriage to a Malay ended in divorce after six years and after that she was a single mother raising three sons without any help from her ex-husbands.

The second session involved a panel discussion of the custody battle between Subashini and former husband Saravanan or Mohd Shafi Saravanan Abdullah; and Shamala and former husband Dr Jeyaganesh who converted one of their sons to Islam.

The panel consisted of lawyers Mohd Haniff Khatri Abdullah (counsel for Mohd Shafi), K. Shanmuga (for Subashini) and Ravi Nekoo (for Shamala).

Suhakam urges PM to amend civil laws to resolve conflicts

Suhakam urges PM to amend civil laws to resolve conflicts
By Husna Yusop
KUALA LUMPUR (Aug 10, 2008): Former Suhakam commissioner Dr Mehrun Siraj has urged Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi to amend the civil laws to resolve the conflicts between a Muslim convert and a non-converting spouse.

She said the lawyers had previously proposed that a section of the Law Reform (Marriage and Divorce) Act 1976 be amended, but to date, nothing has been done about it.

"I want to throw a challenge to the Prime Minister. Amend the law to show you are sincere about resolving the issue. And don’t dolak dalik (be wishy washy) and pretend there are all kinds of reasons you can’t do it.

"If you really want to resolve the issue, amend the constitution," she said after the abrupt end of the Bar Council’s forum titled "Conversion to Islam: Article 121(1a) of the Federal Constitution: Subashini and Shamala Revisited" on Saturday.

The International Islamic University Malaysia adjunct professor, who attended the forum as she believed in open discussions, said the current law confines it only to non-Muslims, unless a divorce is applied for on the grounds of conversion to Islam by the party who does not convert.

"We can amend that section to say even the party who converts should be allowed to apply for divorce. That way, he or she can resolve matters with his or her non-Muslim family because when the (civil) court grants a divorce to the non-Muslim spouse, the court can also make orders for custody, maintenance, division of property and so on.

"As it is now, you can do this under the civil law, provided the non-Muslim spouse applied. But if you amend it to let the Muslim spouse to also apply, maybe he or she can then resolve issues with a non-Muslim spouse before entering into another marriage. That is what he or she should do.

"Islam does not condone the behaviour of abandoning your family. And certainly we, as Muslims, do not want anybody to make use of Islam to get out of their obligations. That would be wrong," she said.

Mehrun said when a divorce case between a Muslim convert and a non-converting spouse is brought to the syariah court, the non-Muslim would feel his or her rights were affected.
She said the issue is not about Islam as a religion but the laws which could be amended for the benefit of everyone.

"From the perspective of Islam, if we explain the right things to the non-Muslims, they would not be afraid or worried and will understand Islam better. But if we act harshly and rudely, like some of those who came to stop the forum, people will think this is what Islam is," she said.

Earlier, one of the demonstrators who claimed he represented Umno had told her off for being in the forum, saying she was conspiring with the organiser.

To this, she had said: "You represent Umno, I represent the Muslims. Muslims must act based on the Qur'an and Sunnah (sayings of the Prophet). We must behave well. Muslims must not be rude. I’m ashamed of your behaviour. Islam does not condone this."

She told reporters the protestors had given Islam and Muslims a bad name and she felt very strongly about it as they were insulting her intelligence.

"He said if I sit down means I am supporting this. (The fact is) If you sit down it means you are listening and you can contribute and explain things to people. It does not necessarily mean you agree with any views that are posed on Islam," she added.

Mehrun also suggested that a section of the Selangor Administration of Muslim Law Enactment, which provides that the syariah court should not make any decisions that affect the rights of non-Muslims, to be applied to all states.

She said under the state enactment, the syariah court can reject a case if the conflict is between a Muslim and a non-Muslim spouse. Therefore, the couple should resolve any outstanding issues first before coming to the syariah court.


Federal Govt asked to sort out legal conflicts urgently

Himanshu Bhatt and Husna Yusop
GEORGE TOWN (Aug 10, 2008): Gerakan acting president Tan Sri Dr Koh Tsu Koon has called on the federal government to urgently convene a meeting of the joint committee of civil and syariah lawyers to discuss and recommend proper procedures related to marriages between Muslims and non-Muslims, and issues such as conversion, custody of children and burial ritual after death.

He said the committee, which was formed to work out solutions following several controversies related to Muslim converts after death and after breakdown of marriages, should be reconvened.

"It is urgent to reconvene this committee which, I am told, has not met for quite some time," Koh said in a statement today.

"Such issues and procedures, if left unresolved without good mutual understanding, will continue to haunt the multi-religious society of Malaysia," he said.

"There will be controversy and even conflicts over family matters related to religious conversion."

He made this statement in the wake of the fracas over the open forum on conversion to Islam organised by the Bar Council on Saturday. The forum was cut short because of a noisy protest which disrupted proceedings.

Former Suhakam commissioner Dr Mehrun Siraj shared Koh's view, when she urged Prime Minister Datuk Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi to amend the civil laws to resolve the conflicts between a Muslim convert and a non-converting spouse.

She said the lawyers had previously proposed that a section of the Law Reform (Marriage and Divorce) Act 1976 be amended, but to date, nothing has come out of it. She said there should be no further delay in resolving this long-standing issue. (see also page four)

On Saturday, some 500 people gathered outside the forum venue in downtown Kuala Lumpur, asking for it to stop. Several of the demonstrators, accompanied by policemen, later went into the hall where the forum was being held, and engaged in a verbal tirade with the organisers.

Koh criticised the "rowdy demonstration" and also condemned the fire bombing of the former house of Bar Council President Datuk Ambiga Sreenevasan, which is now the house of Wanita Umno deputy chief Datuk Seri Shahrizat Abdul Jalil.

"It is regrettable that some members of political parties such as PAS, PKR and Umno were involved in the demonstration," Koh said, adding that strong words were used PAS Youth chief Datuk Salahuddin Ayub, who is also Kubang Kerian MP, and Kulim-Bandar Baru MP Zulkifli Nordin of PKR.

"All politicians must take a rational and reasonable approach to look at how to fine-tune the relevant laws and procedures to avoid or minimise potential inter-religious controversies and conflicts," he stressed.

Deputy Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak, when asked about the matter, said the reaction to the forum was "expected" and that was why they had advised the Bar Council to hold a closed forum instead. However, he said, the Council was "stubborn" and ignored the advice. (seals: hmmmm)

Saturday, August 09, 2008

Protesters rally outside Bar Council (update 2)


KUALA LUMPUR: A large group of people demonstrating against the Bar Council's forum on conversion to Islam forced the forum to end early after police told organisers to wrap it up over safety concerns.

The group of about 300 people from various non-governmental organisations, including two Opposition MPs, gathered at about 8.20am outside the Bar Council building on Jalan Lebuh Pasar Besar here to protest the forum which they said would undermine Islam.

The group threatened many times to storm into the building if the forum was not stopped.
About 50 police and Federal Reserve Unit personnel lined themselves between the crowd and the building entrance. The police also found two bottles of alcohol by the building that were believed to be unlit Molotov cocktails.

At about 9.15am, Dang Wangi OCPD Asst Comm Zulkarnain Abdul Rahman, went into the building to talk to Bar Council representatives to stop the forum by 10am in the interest of safety.

The group eventually sent Kulim-Bandar Baru MP, Zulkifli Nordin, together with Gabungan Pelajar Melayu Semenanjung and Umno representatives to ensure the forum had ended. While this was going on, Kubang Kerian MP Salahuddin Ayub addressed the crowd asking them to be patient.

When those who attended the forum made their way out of the building, they were greeted with loud boos, obscenities and vulgar words.

Zulkifli later emerged from the building to tell the crowd that the forum had indeed ended and to tell the crowd to disperse and make space for those who wanted to leave.

He shouted "Shutup!" at one point to one particular demonstrator who kept insisting that the Bar Council apologise for having held the forum.

Later, Zulkifli told reporters that asking for an apology was not the issue now and that he had warned the Bar Council from ever holding such forums again.

Asst Comm Zulkarnain said the situation was controlled well by the police and that it still could not be established if the two bottles that were found were Molotovs.

When asked if it was fair to break up a function held in private premises, he said: "We have to. It depends on the level of risk and if the threat is increasing, then we have maintain public order."